Posts by William Penwell

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Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

by Separation of Powers in

i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

"you know, you should really get back to meetings.

William Penwell

The strange thing is that all us ex-JWs have vivid memories of it all and yet if you ask current JWs about it they will feign having no recollection whatsoever.

I can recall a discussion about the 1975 thing with my sister and her version of what happened was very different than mine. They say memory is not reliable as it is very selective. I think from my sisters point of view she only remembers the positive things about the religion and chooses subconsciously to forget the negative things. Again when a person has two conflicting belief systems going on, they will choose one or the other. It is a social network for them and to know admit that their train of thought is wrong they would have to deny the last 50 - 60 years of their belief system.

That CO that said the 15 years time line I would say is someone that is now in the 50 to 70 age group and knows his days are numbered. I would say it is his ego and the fear of death that he thinks he is that important that this world cannot exist without him. I think that is the only way he can go on pushing the religion. I did notice with my parents although they would never admit it, we were not supposed to die in this system, the last few years of their life when they knew the reality was that they were going to die, I noticed that it was like their spirit was crushed. I know to their grave they never gave up the hope but it is so sad to think that all your life you chase a dream only to realize in the end it was all a lie.

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Prank call to Governing Body member Anthony Morris III gets through

by Watchtower-Free in

alert..............alert.....breaking news .......... john cedars of jwsurvey has pranked called governing body member anthony morris iii at bethel .

over 2 minutes of pranking .

as i type he is editing the recording into a video .

William Penwell

I did not read all 13 pages of posts on here but skimmed through some of the comments. I have to agree with the posters that felt that a great opportunity was wasted on asking some serious questions and getting some answers. Now it just makes the ex JW's look bad in the eyes of maybe some fence sitters. You know the WT will not waste a moment on this to twist it to make them look good. i.e. these evil apostates verbally attacking one of the Governing Body members. It would just justify their reasoning that they are being persecuted in the name of Jehovah thus they must have the truth.

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Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

by Separation of Powers in

i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

"you know, you should really get back to meetings.

William Penwell

"this is our Armageddon car! It's the last one we'll ever buy!"
I said that about a new car I bought in the last century. I wore it out plus another 2 or 3 since then.

This was in the mid 80's, now thirty years ago when my ex father in law gave me a pep talk on playing around in this system and how it can't last much longer. The funny thing is none of my ex in laws are dubs anymore.

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Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

by Separation of Powers in

i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

"you know, you should really get back to meetings.

William Penwell

After I left the "Organization" I started to play cards for fun and profit. Don't judge you learn a lot of about psychology doing that. I think a lot of JWs exhibit what is known as "loss aversion" - aka "chasing your loses". You watch people at the table invest/lose $1000, then they lose $10,000 trying to gain their original, $1000. They can't walk away from their original loss and in a few hours their down $100,000. And because of desperation they play badly and recklessly.

In psychology they refer to, cognitive dissonance is the mental stress or discomfort experienced by an individual who holds two or more contradictory beliefs, ideas, or values at the same time, or is confronted by new information that conflicts with existing beliefs, ideas, or values. Wikipedia.

What I get out of this is if the new reality contradicts their old beliefs they won't give up their old beliefs, so they keep on having this mental stress that they know their old beliefs were wrong but they don't want to admit it as they have all this time and effort invested in that idea. I know myself it took me years to accept that my own belief system was wrong and that I wasted all those years pursuing a lie. Most people are content to keep believing the lie as they have all this time, money and emotional investment in the lie. To me it is the stronger person that is will to stand up and admit they were wrong and move on with their lives.

Away from my point above, I also recall the day I was DF'd 20 years ago. The elder said to me, "don't play around to long in this old system as it is nearing its end." I know at least two of those elders on my judicial committee are both dead a few years after that.

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Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

by Separation of Powers in

i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

"you know, you should really get back to meetings.

William Penwell

I was told in the 1960's that I would never finish high school. Well let's see...I finished high school, my children finished high school and some of my grandchildren have finished high school. I have been told...."Well just think how much closer we are now than when your were in high school." When I tell some JW's that are my age that I have accepted that I am going to die in this system of things they at first look a little surprised and then I see in their eyes that they know that is the truth, they just can't say it themselves.

Growing up in the same generation our family was not going to age but all of us were supposed to walk hand in hand into that paradise earth. I have just seen my parents age and die and us children are not that far behind. I know I will age and die in this system like everyone else. I think my brothers and sisters have all come to that conclusion but don't want to admit it. Thank you WT for all the broken dreams.

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Mom says, "CO says there's only 15 years left!"

by Separation of Powers in

i don't typically hear from my mom often, but i tell you, over the past couple of weeks, i have heard from her several times.

you heard the comment about "our way of worship will be altered" and thank you for your posts by the way....but yesterday, she calls and is asking about the kids and then, in typical jw fashion mind you, says:.

"you know, you should really get back to meetings.

William Penwell

Sounds like the 1960's when the end of the system was right around the corner. I recall my brother in law about 1973-74 saying we would not see 1975. How some elderly people were waiting for the end so they could be young and healthy again. One poor old fellow that was dying of cancer said if he could only hold on for a few more months. He died that same year. Fool me once WT, that is all you got to keep your members in line is fear.

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2014 Watchtower Library CD (very discreetly) changed the Insight article on Faithful and Discreet Slave

by Gilgamesh in

the updated article on the "fds" makes several changes although it still lists the article/entry as if it had come from the 1988 edition of insight on the scriptures, vol.

(1co 3:2, 5; 4:1, 2; compare mt 4:4.

at the same time the individual members making up such composite body, or the domestics making up the house of god (mt 24:45; heb 3:6; eph 2:19), would also be recipients of the food dispensed.

William Penwell

I guess this is what the society claims as new light when they change the old light to coincide with the new light teachings. Unless the WT has put some disclaimer or notation that this information has been changed, this is out and out deceiving.

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I was shy on my first JW.ORG Video, I am so happy sharing God's Organization with you!

by JWCart1975 in

jw.org is the fastest growing media outlet in the world, our local cobe said we are going to take the media from satan's wicked world!

repent before it's too late and come back to the kingdom hall with all your loving brothers and sisters!

you won't find happiness without jehovah's organization and you know it!

William Penwell

Please think about all the good times you had in Field Service, at the Meetings and Book Study closeness with our tight-knit family.

For all the good times I recall there was just as many bad memories. In the end after a bunch of missed prophecies from the WT and a lot of soul searching, I knew it was not the "TRUTH".

Please return before it's too late, Jehovah will bless you only by humbling yourself and rejoining the Flock of Jehovah!

Just more guilt from this organization of conditional love.

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Who Is Engineering the Re-branding of Jehovahs Witnesses

by millie210 in

is it an outside source?.

an inside job?

maybe the younger gb "helpers"?.

William Penwell

I am wonder to if the WT haven't hired an outside PR company to improve their image as some else pointed out on here that the present GB are not bright enough to figure this out themselves.

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iWitnesses?

by cappytan in

campaign of hate said this on another thread:.

they are quite clearly trying to copy the business model of apple.

it reminds me of the 2013 agm when they had an apple style technology section, focusing on the new jw apps.

William Penwell

WOW what ever happened to the WT doing business with this "wicked old world" or "present system of things"? More hypocrisy from the WT.